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NO "Purgatory"

If you presume that "purgatory" or obligatory purging now-dead penitent sinners by an angry God requiring more than simply free-pass belief in the bloody gospel of believing, demanding additional achievement of suffering works merit of punishment because of (not "for") sins committed previously before physical death PLUS being finally thus granted atonement completion after death . . . is a reality, after reading the following verses of the Bible, I would like to know why:

Colossians 2:13 [somewhat paraphrased] And you, who were dead in trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with Him (while you will be temporarily burning in "purgatory"), having forgiven us all our trespasses (while and because of us still being punished for those trespasses by burning for a few centuries or thousand years or so while suspended airless in "purgatory")
Colossians 2:14 having canceled the bond which stood against us with its legal demands; this He set aside, nailing it to the cross (although the legal requirement of punishment for past sins still must be expiated by us burning for a hundred years or so in "purgatory" to purge us from the penalty of those sins).

Hebrews 1:1 [not paraphrased] In many and various ways of old, God spoke to the fathers in the prophets,
Hebrews 1:2 but in these last days He spoke to us in the Son, whom He appointed heir of all; through whom He indeed made the ages,
Hebrews 1:3 who, being the shining splendor of His glory, and the express image of His essence, upholding all things by the word of His power, having made purification of our sins through Himself, sat down at the right of the Majesty on high . . .

Hopefully, catholic and anglicans continue, we will, by burning for a long while in "purgatory", then earn and receive forgiveness of sins, contrary to:

Hebrews 10:11 [somewhat paraphrased] And every (dead) priest (and lay person, suspended airless and helpless in "purgatory", repeatedly burning continually as sacrifice to atone for past sins previously committed as punishment) stands daily at his service, which can never take away sins.
Hebrews 10:12 But when Christ [NOT us burning in an imaginary "purgatory"] had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, He sat down at (not "on") the right hand of God,
Hebrews 10:14 By a single offering He [not those in mythical "purgatory"] has perfected for all time (except for those who will temporarily burn in "purgatory" and penitently come to their senses for atonement while therein) those who are sanctified (and will be sanctified in "purgatory").

After all, did not St Paul state that:

Philippians 3:11 ". . . that if possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead."

. . . when Revelation clearly states that ALL the dead will be raised automatically someday:

Revelation 20:12 [somewhat paraphrased] And I saw all the dead, great and small, wicked and righteous, standing not sitting before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is THE Book of Life. And both the wicked and righteous dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done, not merely whether they in faith or simply accommodated in conformity to others around them, accepted Jesus as their personal savior or were generously philanthropic enough.
13 And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, but "purgatory" did not give up the dead in it, because punishment and atonement for or against those therein was not finished or done yet, and all were judged by what they had done.
14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire, although "Purgatory" had to wait. This is The Second Death, The Lake of Fire,
15 and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he/she was thrown either into "Purgatory" or Don't-Mention-It because why would anyone want to eternally torment our dear relatives and friends who were temptationally misguided and accidentally made a few mistakes now and then into The Lake of Fire.

Isn't it reasonable to wonder where's the justice in letting a few people get away with big sins in this life, and not having to burn in "purgatory" for an adequately-lengthy time therein?

Second Thessalonians 1:9 [not a paraphrase] They shall suffer the punishment of eternal destruction and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His might . . .

Revelation 14:11 [also not a paraphrase] "And the smoke of their torment goes up to the ages of the ages; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."

Some catholics might twist the following Scripture of Joshua 24:19 by taking only one stance and disregarding other qualifiers:

But Joshua said to the people: "You cannot serve the LORD, because He is a holy God, He is a jealous God; He will not forgive your transgressions or your sins."

"So God is guilty of the sin of jealousy?" they might ask. "Why do penance and ask for forgiveness for sins at all, if there is no chance to be forgiven?" "If we are eternally guilty of the transgressions of our sins, we might as well sin as much and as long and as often as we can - whether or not that gives us temporary and immediate or long-term satisfaction."

That, to some catholics would, of course, directly contradict most of other Scripture related to begging for forgiveness, for such things as asking for a President to lead them as recorded in First Samuel 12:19 in the Old Testament:

And all the people said to Samuel: "Pray for your servants to the LORD your God, that we may not die, because we have added to all our sins this evil, to ask for ourselves a king."

The one-sided catholic might exclaim: "What is so diabolical about asking for a king, a president, a senator, a pope, or whoever?"

Rather than confessing sins to a catholic priest, or even regular congregants or whoever (per James 5:16 in the New Testament), the catholic who believes in the non-forgiving God (Joshua 24:19) might wonder why David in Psalm 79:10 even went beyond that and petitioned God directly for sin forgiveness:

Help us, God of our salvation ["salvation" from WHAT?], because of the glory of your name; deliver us, and forgive our sins, for your name's sake!

Wow. "Help" us? "Deliver" us? "Forgive" our sins, simply because of "your name's sake?"

Kind of flies in the face of:

Joshua 24:19 = But Joshua said to the people: "You cannot serve the LORD, because He is a holy God, He is a jealous God; He will not forgive your transgressions or your sins."

Oh well, such catholics might conjecture, if God will not forgive us in this life, He will punish us seven times worse after we are dead in the casket [and you darn well know how painful a lifeless and motionless corpse lying in a crypt in a cemetery can experience all types of buried-underground torture, and usually clearly detect such happening to the motionless body lying in the funeral home]:

Leviticus 26:18,21,24,28 = God will chastise you sevenfold for your sins.

All is not lost, for the narrow-minded catholic, who feels he or she is doomed with no hope for restitution nor repentance nor forgiveness. The ultimate Scriptural contradiction to Joshua's no-forgiveness Christ's-death-on-the-cross-is-not-needed God is plainly stated in:

Leviticus 16:30 = on this day shall atonement be made for you, to cleanse you; from all your sins you shall be clean before the LORD. Whoopie! The non-forgiving God does just the opposite, and instead forgives, and atones for [why, and however that is - perhaps after death when buried underground in cemeteries but is definitely not stated - and the crucified Jesus clearly is not mentioned here at all]

In fact, to the confused catholic, such pronouncement of atonement and statement of being forgiven, is not even needed, being that even though Joshua's non-forgiving-yet-forgiving God does not, yet does, forgive sins, there is no penalty of punishment to the deceased bodies in graveyard tombs, because there is no punishment for sins imposed on such physically lifeless carcasses:

Psalm 103:11 = He does not deal with us according to our sins, nor requite us according to our iniquities.

Well then, "Why punishment in a so-called "purgatory" when "evil" works automatically become "good" works?

Isaiah 1:18 = "Be reasonable" says the LORD, "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall become like wool."

Automatic change from scratchy red cotton to soft and smooth wool. Kinky.

Why spooky-spirits-afterlife "purgatory" punishment to dead bodies in caskets when no punishment whatsoever is to be administered for sins?

Isaiah 43:25 = I, I am He who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins [be they masturbating to porn and screwing masseuse/escort prostitutes, vulgar swearing, shoplifting, sassing teachers, flipping the bird at parents, staying away from church on Sunday, getting drunk, doing drugs, driving recklessly by tailgating and running red stoplights, and much more].

Such across-the-board forgiveness from Joshua's non-forgiving God who apparently does not care if we sin or not:

Isaiah 44:22 = I have swept away your transgressions like a cloud, and your sins like mist; return to me, because I have redeemed you.

But - oh oh! - here we go back again to the non-forgiving God idea:

Isaiah 59:2 = but your iniquities (I guess that means: "sin") have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hid His face from you so that He does not hear.

Jeremiah 5:25 = Your iniquities have kept good from you.

Micah 6:13 = Therefore I have begun to smite you, making you desolate because of your sins.

Great (sarcastically speaking). If it isn't one thing, it's another.

So WHICH is it: sins cannot be forgiven, and sins matter . . . or rather sins can be forgiven, and sins do not matter . . . or WHAT?

Jesus seemed to give carte-blanche forgiveness of sins in Matthew 9:2, Luke 5:20, 7:48, etc.

There IS one qualifier to obtain forgiveness for sins from the God who according to the Joshua passage above does not forgive sins, and that is to "believe that I am He" (whatever that means, per John 8:24) and to "repent" (about WHAT?) and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins (per Acts 2:38), and "turn again" (per Acts 3:19).

So, immerse that dirty yet-alive non-deceased body with water ("wash away" those sins off your stinky smelly non-dead body, according to Acts 22:16), and forgiveness of sins will thus occur therefrom, compliments of Joshua's God who does not forgive sins but which God has automatically forgiven everyone's sin according to other Old-Testament Bible verses.

"Washing" (with water, I suppose) with Maytag or Kenmore washing machine is important. But for SIN ATONEMENT?

According to Matthew 15:20, John 13:8 & 12, wife-bathing First Corinthians 6:11, First Timothy 5:10, Titus 3:5, Hebrews 10:22, Revelation 7:14 and 22:14.

Oh wait. The original Greek-Text words phrase in Revelation 22:14 is NOT: "washed their robes" but rather correctly translated as: "do His commandments."

BIG difference! NOT synonymous. WHOLE different concept! NOT the same thing. NOT even close!

Perhaps sins need not be washed away in purgatory, but ubiquitous (universal) forgiveness for EVERYONE is already granted from Joshua's God who does not forgive sins yet does, being that "Christ has been raised" (per First Corinthians 15:3 and 15:7 and Galatians 1:4) as "expiation" (First John 2:2 and 2:12 plus 4:10).

Not only bathing in bathtub or shower, but confessing sins (to priest, layperson, God Himself perhaps or probably) is needed for sin forgiveness and cleansing (even though such non-purgatorial cleansing occurs by bathtub bathing or showering) per First Peter 1:9?

A couple of problematic Scripture passages pertain and apply to sins done by a corpse in the purgatory of an underground vault in a graveyard, or a live human body not yet in the purgatorial silence of underground cemetery burial . . . and that is a requirement for "dying to sin" (not a problem since the corpse is already dead and not doing any sin or anything at all anymore) mention in First Peter 2:24 . . . AND that redemptive atonement occurs not by catholics praying for lifeless purgatorially-purged-from-committing-further-transgression corpses in the caskets, nor petition to any priest, layperson, or even God Himself, but rather occurs automatically "by His blood" (which, I would surmise, means that Christ's shed blood lethally dying on some cross approximately two thousand years ago over in Israel has "freed us from our sins" per Revelation 1:5.

According to Catholic Answers on the Web, the non-inspired non-canonicity of Second Maccabees 12:39-46 and 44-45 (not added to their extra-adiaphoric "bible" until 1546 at Luther's death) is irrelevant compared to THEIR CLAIM of its "historical value."

In it, some jews (not necessary Hebrews of the Lord) supposedly themselves "atoned" for some dead person's sin by taking up a collection for them. No need for animal sacrifices, not to mention Christ's sacrifice of Himself on a cross.

Strange. The penitent crucified-with-Christ thief on a cross who called Jesus "Lord" in his dying comments was informed by Jesus that the same would be "with me TODAY in PARADISE." Not "purgatory."

According to catholic dogma, Isaiah 4:4 means that the spirit of burning the daughters of Zion purges blood. In that case, the crematoriums of nazi Germany did a lot of purgatorial purging without any spooky superstitutious reference to some afterlife of continuing pre-Heaven punishment.

Prison to catholics means purgatory, as to the Matthew 5:25,26 passage, and such prison necessitating the last penny payment occurs in their mythical state of after-dead "purgatory." Pity the paupers who cannot afford to pay jail bond.

Forgiveness of the impenitent for non-blasphemy in the never-never land of "purgatory" is not merely possible but probably according to their warped application of Matthew 12:32, and construction workers who experience their hard work demolished by fire (First Corinthians 3:11-15) will be saved by being burned a little themselves, according to catholics.

The solution? Psalm 66:12 and Isaiah 4:4 and Malachi 3:3 speaks of refining people who have committed different levels and types of infraction (Matthew 5:22) with physical or spiritual "fire" in THIS life - NOT some hocus-pocus thing after bodily death.

Matthew 5:25-26 refers not to monetary payment after physical death, but temporal settlement of judicial lawsuits with court-ordered monetary remedy.

Nowhere in Scripture is it stated that saving repentance occurs AFTER physical death, in the next world or state of being. In fact, the rich man in Hades who, being in torment by flames therein, and petitioning release, was told by Abraham of the IMPOSSIBILITY of that, being that "a great Chasm has been fixed, so that guys like you cannot come up here to Heaven, and guys like us cannot go down there to Hades."

According to some catholics, the "holiness without which no one will see the Lord" and the "spirits of just men made perfect" (book of Hebrews) has not and does not occur when a live-body person repents and accepts Christ's sacrificial death of atonement for all and every sin, but only occurs by the lifeless corpse lying motionless in the casket or cemetery burial vault in an alleged "purgatorial" state of being.

Isn't it interesting that Jesus torpedoed any possibility of afterlife purgatory purging for "left-over" more-needs-to-be-administered punishment for lifeless corpses in caskets with the stories of the men who worked in the morning getting the same denarius as the end-of-day guys who started work at 5 pm . . . the elder son complaining about rejoicing with fatted calf and home-coming party yet himself having the remainder of the prodigal's father's inheritance . . . the the righteous (or self-righteous) tithing, fasting, donating-to-charity, goody-goody, proud pharisee (glad that he was or had not been a screw-up bum, as everyone else was glad that he had not stood on street corners begging and thus bothering and disturbing waiting motorists in cars) compared to and comparing himself to the remorseful publican petitioning God for mercy.

Payup with "purgatory." GENUINE authentic Scripture does NOT infer such WHATSOEVER.

NOW is the acceptable - time to repent and get FULLY atoned for. NOW is the day of salvation, per Second Corinthians 6:2.

NOT later on, in some make-believe state of "purgatory" - where one can now live like the Devil and plan to compensate or make up for it eventually using the heresy of "purgatory."

Hebrews 10:29 How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the human who has spurned the Son of God, and profaned the blood of the covenant by which they were sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace?